Saturday, October 21, 2017

The Democratic Establishment Hates Bernie As Much As Real Democrats Love Him

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Lobbyists don't like this kind of language; Americans do though

The new Granite Poll of New Hampshire voters shows Trump to be a very weak candidate, at least among New Hampshire Republicans. I hear they still like him a lot in most of the old slave-holding states. Among New Hampshire Democrats polled, Bernie is the clear frontrunner for 2020. None of the media-created "candidates," your Kamala Harrises, John Hickenloopers, Tim Ryans, Cory Bookers, Amy Klobuchars, Seth Moultons, Jason Kanders, Kirsten Gillibrands or Mark Zuckerbergs are interesting to voters. Most of them are polling at 1%. The Democrats who New Hampshire Democrats are behind are:
Bernie- 31%
Joe Biden- 24%
Elizabeth Warren- 13%
Right after that Zogby Analytics released another 2020 presidential primary poll, but a national one. They polled likely voters and again found Bernie way ahead, with a double-digit lead against any other Democrat. This poll also stuck conservatives Terry McAuliffe and Andrew Cuomo into the sample, neither of whom had significant support.



Bernie, explained the pollsters "is the most popular candidate among almost every sub-group. There are instances where Biden and Warren outshine Sanders, such is the case with older voters (age 50+), where Biden is more popular or in the case of creative class voters-working in STEM or other professional sectors-who favor Warren. Among the democratic base, which consists of women voters, younger voters, voters living in large cities and many minority voters; Sanders performs well among all of these groups. Among women, Sanders beat Warren with a ratio of more than 3 to 1 and Biden almost 2 to 1. When it came to younger Millennial voters age 18-29, Sanders (42%) dominates. He beats Warren (22%) nearly 2 to 1 and Joe Biden (12%) 3 to 1. This pattern changes among African American primary voters. Among our oversample of 247 African American Democratic presidential primary voters, Biden is the clear favorite at 31%, followed by Sanders (19%) and there is a three way tie between Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris and Mark Zuckerberg at 6% each... The former vice president leads every meaningful African American subgroup, including younger African American voters, while Sanders trails in second place among almost every sub-group. Sanders does tighten things up to a virtual tie among African Americans who have a college degree and African American men." When they did the same over-sample of Hispanic voters and Asian voters Bernie is the clear front-runner (41% to Biden's 14%-- including 71% among younger Hispanic primary voters. He also beats Warren and Biden, both 2 to 1, among Asian Democratic presidential primary voters."

Hoping to head off the disintegration of the Democratic Party-- and despite Tom Perez's purge of Bernie backers from the DNC-- yesterday the DNC rejected Bob Mulholland's resolution backed by corrupt conservatives and lobbyists that "would have urged independents such as Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont to 'register or affiliate with the Democratic Party' next year." Bob Mulholland is a well known California dirt-bag despised by activists for being, basically, the worst garbage crawling around inside the California Democratic Party. He managed to kill a 2007 party resolution to censure Dianne Feinstein for helping Bush to get reactionary judge Michael Mukasey confirmed as Attorney General. When Bruce Hershenson ran against Barbara Boxer Mulholland leaked a rumor that Hershenson was into porn and frequented a porn shop, effectively destroying his campaign. It's the kind of guy Mulholland has always been, a typical Democratic Party establishment hack-- pure trash, one of the kind who confuses people about the difference between the 2 parties.


In his attempt to drive progressives out of the party-- his life's work-- he whined yesterday that "I thought we were Democrats here. When the Yankees face off against the Dodgers, the only people who will be independent in that ballpark will be the umpires." No one offered a resolution kicking Mulholland off the DNC, something that would have gone over extremely well with California Democrats who hate this guy almost as much as they hate Trump.
But the negative attention on the resolution helped sink it. Terry Anderson, a DNC member from Vermont, told the committee that the language had been sprung on them without warning and didn’t reflect Sanders’s alliance with his state’s Democrats.

“It’s really troubling when you get your resolution package and you find out your state’s been named in it without any prior consultation,” said Anderson. “We’ve come to a solution that works for us, and we don’t need external voices telling us how to solve our primaries. Next year, Bernie will run for and win the Democratic primary, and he will win reelection-- as an independent.”

The resolution died with a quick voice vote.

Earlier in the day, Sanders supporters scored another win by passing language officially rejecting “corporate donors that conflict with our DNC platform.”

That language had first been introduced in 2016, when the DNC’s quadrennial platform committee met over two days to hammer out differences between supporters of Sanders and Clinton. Christine Pelosi, a San Francisco activist who had backed Clinton in the primary, introduced language that would committed the party to rejecting money from business interests whose interests conflicted with the party’s platform. The platform committee, dominated by Clinton delegates, voted it down.

But on Friday morning, Pelosi took another run at the idea, describing it a way for Democrats to codify their opposition to payday lenders and other businesses the party wants to regulate.

“In our platform, the most progressive platform in party history, we condemn predatory payday lenders,” said Pelosi. “We need to draw bright lines.”

The language ended up passing easily.
This comes right on top of Bernie eviscerating conservative champion Ted Cruz in their CNN debate Wednesday night. Dan Engelke kept score for Alternate. Spoiler-- 8 to 0 for Bernie.
"In two minutes, Senator Cruz is going to tell you that if we give tax breaks to the billionaires like George W. Bush did, like Ronald Reagan did, we're going to create zillions of jobs and you're all going to become very, very rich, that we have a trickle-down economic theory, tax breaks for the wealthiest people, the largest corporations, and, whoa, everything is good. That is a totally fraudulent theory."

"Now, the Trump Republican tax proposal that's before us today, this proposal is being pushed by Senator Cruz's campaign contributors, some of the wealthiest people in this country, by the Koch brothers, who are worth $90 billion. Why are they pushing this agenda? Because 80 percent of the tax breaks in this proposal will go to the top 1 percent."

"Under President Bush, he did it. He gave tax breaks. And you know what happened? He gave tax breaks to the rich. And you know what happened? We lost 500,000 private sector jobs, and the national debt almost doubled under Bush."

"So this idea-- of giving tax breaks to large corporations-- is basically a fraud. Listen to what Ronald Reagan's domestic policy advisor Bruce Bartlett said. He said that virtually every Republican, what every Republican says about taxes today, is a lie. Reagan's OMB director David Stockman said that the idea that closing loopholes and adding growth will pay for trillions in cuts, quote, 'is just completely fanciful and irresponsible.'"

"I happen to believe that if you want to really get the economy moving, you do things like raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour, put money into the hands of working people, provide targeted tax breaks to small businesses and working people, rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, creating 15 million jobs."

"Now, Ted, I gather you are a big deficit hawk, yeah? How did you vote on the authorization bill for the Department of Defense which increased military spending by, if I'm not mistaken, $700 billion, so that we are now spending more on the military than the next 12 nations combined? Check—correct me if I'm wrong, Ted—I think you voted for that huge increase in military spending. I think that at a time when we have people working two or three jobs trying to make ends meet, where kids can't afford to go to college and are leaving school deeply in debt, I happen not to think that spending $70 billion more on the military and giving a huge boondoggle to the military industrial complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us about, I happen to think that was not a good idea."

"Let's examine what Senator Cruz really wants to do. He wants to see legislation passed that would give $1.9 trillion in tax breaks to the top 1 percent, significantly increase the national debt being passed on to our kids and our grandchildren. And in order to pay for these tax breaks for billionaires, he wants to throw 15 million people off of Medicaid, cut Medicare by over $450 billion, cut Pell Grants, cut programs like the WIC program, women, infant and children program, designed for low-income pregnant women and their little babies."

"Second point that I want to make, Ted, you said earlier—two points that I want to make here. Number one, we can have a debate about whether you like what's going on in Denmark or not. Don't compare Denmark to Cuba. Don't compare Denmark to communist countries. Denmark has a higher voter turnout rate than we do. They're a vigorous democracy, as are other Scandinavian countries."

The winning team

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4 Comments:

At 7:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Proof that the party needs to be euthanized, like a rabid dog, before it kills more people. The corrupt masses of the democrap party naturally hate Bernie. He tells the truth about their owners. I thought that was clear when they cheated to make the banking whore their nom in '16.

However, how can anyone that has a working cortex NOT be disillusioned about the voters after reading those polls. Are blacks just fucking morons? Fucking Biden?!?!? The tool of insurance/finance for half a century?

Leave the democraps to the black voters. They deserve each other. Fucking imbeciles.

 
At 12:39 PM, Blogger Elizabeth Burton said...

The problem I see is the same one that killed Bernie in the South on Super Tuesday and the progressive who tried to oust Wasserman Shultz in Florida—name recognition. I'll posit that a major part of the African American community sees Joe Biden not as he is/was but as the man who ran with Barack Obama. This might suggest a kind of approbation by the First Black President. And let's keep in mind that the vast majority of people in the US, the ones who get their information from the corporate media, still firmly believe Barack Obama was a good guy who was beaten down by all those nasty Republicans who wouldn't let him get any of those good things he promised accomplished.

Sadly, it's also likely a fair number believed the nasty lies about Bernie's never having done anything for them. If people don't understand that just introducing legislation is only a small part of how the sausage gets made, they're more easily persuaded because the small tweaks Bernie is famous for get buried. You'll see the same thing among the rabid women Clinton cultists who persist in screaming he's a misogynist who's never done anything for women.

It's the downside of having a politician who's as reluctant to toot his own horn as Bernie is. So, we have to do it for him.

What's needed is a focused effort on the part of the progressive groups like Our Revolution and Justice Democrats to get feet on the ground in those communities and gently reveal the truth that their St. Barack threw them under the bus.

 
At 4:04 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Elizabeth, at what point do we stop making excuses for the stupidity of certain voters?

I mean, how could a single black crying (with joy and anticipation) face in that Grant Park crowd on inauguration day not have been crying (with sadness and rage) 22 months later? How many of those dipshits didn't bother to pay attention once one of "theirs" was elected? All of them? 99.99%?

How many of those imbeciles, to this day, nod when someone says that bill Clinton was the "first black president"? That's simply another false meme that was forced upon us back when the democraps had better message (lie) discipline.

At some point you just have to leave them to their own (dearth of) devices to eat their own shit and die. Don't you??

It's going to be nigh impossible to turn this around with the voters being so fucking stupid.

 
At 7:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the democraps hate Bernie FAAAAAR more than the voters love him. They'll USE him whenever Bernie stoops to being used, as in the '16 general for $hillbillary, but they still hate him worse than any republican.

 

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